The Child Molester and Murderer: Antti Veikko "Jammu" Siltavuori

Scandinavian Crimes (w/ Devante & Delila)

Years of Incident: 1959 - 1989
Location: Finland
The Child molester and Murderer: Antti Veikko "Jammu" Siltavuori
Victim(s): 10-12 victims
Method: Sexual Assault, Pedophilia, Rape, Murder

Jammu Siltavuori was a Finnish serial killer responsible for the abduction and murder of two young girls in 1989. His two confirmed victims, 8-year-old Katra and 9-year-old Sini, were lured into his car, sexually assaulted, and killed. Their bodies were discovered days later in a lake near Huhtiniemi in Finland. Siltavuori had a prior history of violent and sexual offenses, with a conviction for murder in the 1950s. 


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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction
• 2:53 Story - Background and Previous Crimes
• 9:22 Story - The Double Murder and Investigation
• 16:17 Story - The Trial and Aftermath
• 19:03 Discussion Section
• 33:05 Conclusion/Outro

Transcript

Welcome to Scandinavian Crimes. My name is Devante and say hello to my lovely co-host Delila.

Hi.

(...) And on this podcast, we talk about famous Scandinavian criminals who made their mark throughout Scandinavian(...) history.(...) So today is a surprise, another child molester case.

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(Laughing)

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I am going to butcher this name, truly I am. So forgive me. I don't know what's going on with the Finnish language. It is not meant for an American like myself.

It is not meant for Americans at all. I did try to help you out with this one.

Yeah, it is just not meant for an American tongue.(...) But so we're going to be talking about the child molester, the haunting case of,

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here we go.

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Auntie Waikou Ilmari,

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Silta Vori.

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That was really good. Round of applause. I'm putting in the audio for that. I'm so proud of you. Yeah.

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You've come so far in this journey.

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Better known by his nickname, Jammu, who was a notorious Finnish murderer and sexual offender. Now we use his nickname for the story for very obvious reasons. And Jammu himself gained infamy in Finland after committing the appalling murders of two eight year old girls in 1989.(...) It seems like there's a theme with a lot of these,

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well, then again, a lot of cases in general, murder, both murders and serial killers. The 60s, 70s and 80s was their time, before technology, so not surprised about that one. But, join us as we discuss the depths of Jammu's crimes and the haunting terror he left behind.(...) So you already know what I'm gonna say.

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Grab your tea,(...) grab your snacks.(...) If you're on the train, especially cause the podcast comes out in the morning and you're on your way to work, just tuck yourself into a nice little corner

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as we discuss the story of Antivaco, Jammu Silitha Vaudy.

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Jammu was born in Vasa, Finland on October 29th, 1926.

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According to some sources, Jammu's childhood was filled with hardships caused by his family's poverty and his father's violent alcoholic behavior.

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While the toxic environment at home led to frequent physical abuse from his father, outside his home, Jammu faced bullying at school.(...) He was labeled a weasel by his classmates due to his dirty and smelly clothes, as well as appearance. This tumultuous upbringing paved the way for Jammu's criminal life, which began in his early 20s. It was conviction's primary for petty crimes and burglary,

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but with the help of Jammu's sister's matchmaking efforts, Jammu met his future wife while he was behind bars in Halinsky.

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The wife, a mother with previous failed relationships, found herself drawn to Jammu and the pair tied the knot in the early 1950s. Initially, their union showed promise as Jammu became sober and had great fondness for his wife's daughter. Welcoming a child of their own, the couple settled in a villa in Viti, 50 kilometers from Halinsky.

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However, the marital bliss soon waned as Jammu's demeanor transitioned to mirroring his father's stern and verbally aggressive behavior, leading to conflicts within the household.

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Tensions peaked when the wife suffered a miscarriage and was hospitalized, during which Jammu removed their son from her care and informed her of his intent to file for divorce.(...) Distraught and isolated, the wife sought solace in her sister in Imatra,(...) staying with her after being discharged from the hospital.

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Missing her son, the wife sought help from a social worker who tracked Jammu down in Otaniemi, Espo. She then met with Jammu, pleading with him to reunite their family.

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After some time, Jammu agreed and they returned to their villa in Viti.

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Despite his attempts to change, Jammu's behavior remained strange, even drawing attention from neighbors.

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The situation worsened when the wife's daughter revealed that Jammu had exposed his penis to her and acted inappropriately.

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Disturbed by the situation, the wife confided in Jammu's sister, leading to police involvement.

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Jammu was detained for three days, during which his wife downplayed the child's accusations as a joke when interrogated by the police.

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After his release, the incident was quietly pushed aside and rumors eventually faded. The family decided to relocate to Jeonsu, in eastern Finland for employment opportunities.(...) This move was perceived as a fresh start, providing hope for a better future for the family.(...) However, Jammu's behavior kept worsening as he became increasingly withdrawn.(...) He would often vanish into the night carrying a crowbar in his backpack.

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He also began accusing his wife of poisoning his meals, growing unease within the household.

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Simultaneously, rumors circulated in the neighborhood about the predators stalking young girls in the area. The suspect was described as riding a distinctive red-spotted bicycle and possessing a prominent chin and cheekbones.(...) This predator had also raped and sexually assaulted a five-year-old girl.

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Despite the rumors, the wife remained unaware of any link between her husband and the predator until the police summoned her for questioning.

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During the interrogation, the wife discovered that Jammu had been arrested for raping a minor and committed multiple burglaries. He was later sentenced to seven and a half years in prison for these crimes.

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Amid all this, with the birth of their third child, the wife decided to file for divorce, ending their turbulent relationship between 1955 and 1956.

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Even in prison, Jammu's troubling behavior continued. His history was marred with numerous escape efforts with a notorious attempted murder incident in 1956, further tarnishing his record.

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In Turku Central Prison, Jammu sought a meeting with the vice director to discuss his case.(...) During the meeting, the director noticed Jammu's unease and ordered the head guard to search him. It revealed that Jammu had a knife concealed beneath his belt, and in a violent outburst, Jammu stabbed both the director and the head guard.(...) Fortunately, both survived, and as a result of Jammu's action, he received an additional sentence of nine and a half years for attempted murder and assault, further lengthening his already extensive prison term.

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Shortly after the assault, he was granted parole and out trail of Jammu's life goes cold in the latter part of the 1960s. Nearly two decades passed before new and concrete information emerged in 1984.

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Jammu is now in his late 50s and presents a worn aged appearance resembling someone in their 70s or perhaps even 80s. Despite his shabby appearance, Jammu's financial situation changed drastically in 1983 when he inherited a large sum of money from his sister.

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This newfound wealth allowed him to buy the villa and VT and inherit an apartment in Helinty.

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However, he chose to live in hecka flats meant for homeless people, highlighting his unconventional lifestyle.

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Though frugal, he owned several vehicles, including a truck, tractor and multiple cars.

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Approximately around 1984 slash 1985,(...) he faced charges for the persistent abuse of 10 to 12 year old girls. Jammu was hosting gatherings for children and teenagers where he provided and sold items such as chocolate, beverages, alcohol and prescription drugs. Some of these children were subjected to sexual abuse as a form of payment for these goods.

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Despite denying any wrongdoing, he was handed yet another prison sentence, which was unfortunately not long enough. His next victims are what made Jammu's case well known throughout the whole country and made him the most hated criminal and finished history. On March 3rd, 1989, in Milipudo, a neighborhood in Helinsky, Jammu lured two eight year old girls, Pei Ivi Maria Hopia Vori and Tanja Johanna Pity Nen into his car from their backyard. Two girls, close friends from the same neighborhood, were raised by single mothers who kept them under strict supervision, ensuring they follow early curfews appropriate for their age. Around 7 p.m., they ventured out to the yard. Their innocent playtime took an unexpected turn when Jammu approached them for a conversation.

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He likely appeared as a harmless elderly man, engaging with girls with friendly conversation about shared interest.(...) Gradually, he lured them into his car, possibly using treats like money, chocolate or soda as bait.

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That Friday,

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at 2246,

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Pei Ivi's mother contacted the authorities after realizing the girls were missing.(...) Despite her and her friends efforts to search for the neighborhood, they couldn't find the children.(...) The police quickly launched an extensive search operation deploying multiple patrols, canine units and helicopters.

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Taxi service, the traffic department, radio stations and TV networks were also alerted.(...) By Saturday morning, every resident in the area had been interviewed in searches extended to nearby off-road areas.(...) By Saturday morning, off-road searches yielded no results, prompting the criminal police to take over the case. As missing persons, investigations fell within their purview. With no leads, a breakthrough came that evening when a local resident of Mili Puru reported seeing the girls with a short elderly man wearing a barrette around 2020, the tar 2020 on the night they disappeared.

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However, despite reviewing photos of potential perpetrators at the police station, the witness couldn't identify the man.(...) As Sunday unfolded, a new tip was reported in, providing additional details to the authorities.(...) This information complimented the early witness report, but also mentioned an old car linked to the elderly man. Then on Sunday afternoon, a new witness was able to identify the old man as Jammu. The witness also knew Jammu's disturbing past as a known child molester.(...) The tips carried significant weight, leading the police to obtain search warrants for Jammu's residence. When the police arrived unannounced, Jammu was found seated on the couch, wearing rubber boots. He was slightly surprised, but remarkably composed.

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As the police searched the apartment, they noticed oddities like a large collection of children's movies and nearly 300 chocolate bars in the refrigerator.(...) Jammu explained that the reason for having children's movies was due to his general love for films. He also claimed that the larger quantity of chocolate was from previous(...) was from a previous habit, as he had to eat a lot of chocolate frequently, but stopped after developing diabetes.(...) He also claimed that the large quantity of chocolate was from a previous habit, as he used to eat chocolate frequently, but had to stop after developing diabetes.

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During a detailed search, Sergeant Jaco Rydon Pei found a knife hidden horizontally in a canister of gas spray under him on the couch.

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Due to these concerning discoveries, it was decided to transport Jammu to Pasila police station for further questioning. The police also examined Jammu's vehicle, focusing specifically on his gray Ford Granada. When asked for the keys in the cars, he handed over the keys to his truck and tractor, but conveniently forgot the Ford Granada's keys. As Sergeant Jaco prepared to drive the car to Pasila police station for further examination, he decided to inspect the trunk first.(...) Upon opening it, a strong odor of burned substance filled the air.(...) Inside, he found canisters, a shovel and a roll containing charred remains.

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As the police officers prepared to take Jammu to the police station, Sergeant Jaco intervened as he asked the police officer to stop. Before allowing Jammu to leave, both the sergeant and the police officer wanted clarification on the items found in the trunk.(...) Now, this is a direct quote for the interrogation protocol, so it's a very short conversation, but just so you can have a better understanding of what happened in that moment.

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The police officer asked Jammu, quote, "What is this?"

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Jammu replied ominously, quote, "Meet."

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The officer then asked, quote, "Are the girls here?" Question mark.

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Yes, Jammu responded.

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With Jammu admitting to the girls remains in the trunk by 1800 on Sunday, March 5th, 1989,(...) the extensive search concluded with the missing girls being found in the perpetrator arrested.

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Jammu's Ford Granada was quickly transported to the forensic department in the University of Helinsky, and the initial autopsies were conducted the next day. Tragically, the children's body were found to be severely charred with the largest remaining fragments measuring only 46 centimeters.

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These fragments included parts of a head, lower limbs, detached teeth and various debris like dirt, planks, nails and melted plastic.(...) The extent of the burns was so severe that it was impossible to determine the girls had been sexually abused.

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Notable fighting from the autopsies revealed a significant present of Pinto Barbatol, a strong sedative in Joanna's body. In comparison, Pei-Yi's body showed signs of strangulation alongside traces of Pinto Barbatol.

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Neighbors in VT reported seeing Jammu burning something in his yard over the weekend, which they thought was his garbage. Although the remote road where Jammu claimed to have first burned bodies were never found,

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investigations did uncover burn marks and human remains in his yard. The exact cause of the girls deaths remain unclear to this day, with possibilities including drug overdose, strangulation or burning.(...) Throughout interrogations, Jammu consistently denied any involvement and kept his story consistent.

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Another finding was that Jammu had leased an old farm. The local police searched the premises and found the farm had been turned to a makeshift prison cell for children, complete with bars, locked doors and child sized amenities.

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Despite this disturbing setup, investigators couldn't confirm if the girls or anyone else had been there. When questioned about this, Jammu gave bizarre explanation involving a supposed revenge plot against someone named Arska.

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The property was burned down in the early 90s, likely destroying any potential evidence. Jammu underwent a forensic psychiatric evaluation to determine if he had a psychiatric condition that could exempt him from a prison sentence and instead required involuntary treatment in a psychiatric facility. The assessment concluded that he was only partially culpable, meaning he didn't qualify for a life sentence nor involuntary treatment.(...) After a contentious trial on December 14th, 1989, Jammu was sentenced by the Helinsky District Court for two murders along with two child abductions. No evidence of sexual assault was discovered on the bad on the badly burned bodies of the girls. With no confession from Jammu regarding the sexual assault charges, the court decided to not convict him of child molestation.(...) He received a total of 15 years in prison with the possibility of parole after 10 years due to the result of psychiatric examinations that legally classified him as partially insane.(...) He was also classified as a dangerous repeat offender, requiring isolation and a penal institution.(...) Additionally, Jammu was ordered to pay compensation to the mothers of Pei Ivi and Johanna amounting to 200,000 marks, approximately 47,500 euros for mental suffering, plus 100,000 marks around 23,700 euros. For loss of earnings, funeral expenses and other costs. At the time, Finnish law didn't recognize compensation for mental suffering, but the Court of Appeal ruled that the mothers distress warranted such compensation at the time. The Supreme Court allowed Jammu's defense to appeal. While they upheld the 15 year sentence, they dismissed the compensation demand as unlawful and dismissed the forced isolation. According to the law at the time, compensation can only be awarded if the convicted person intended to cause mental suffering to the victim's family, which wasn't proven in Jammu's case. This was a significant setback for the low income mothers who can only bury their children and pay for the funeral through charity and public donations.

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On January 31st, 2000, Jammu was released from Helinsky Central Prison and immediately transferred to Nhuvani Emmy Mental Hospital for Criminally Insane in Kupio for involuntary treatment. In early 2007, doctors and the Kupio administrative court decided to extend Jammu's forced treatment, determining that his release would pose a serious risk to public health and safety.(...) Years of assault left him nearly immobile, spending most of his later years in a wheelchair.(...) Despite his condition, he repeatedly tried to appeal his treatment status during the 2000s, but eventually succumbed to dementia.

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Then on March 9th, 2012, Jammu passed away at the age of 85.

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Let's go to the discussion.

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So I would like to start with,

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because there's a lot of information(...) I stumbled upon with his background to just get a deeper understanding of why he ended up being what he became.

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And, you know, obviously you guys already know, troubled childhoods oftentimes and also with a lot of abuse and abusive unstable households lead to a very, like it creates some oftentimes based on research criminals and he ended up becoming one quite early.

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So it wasn't really a surprise after like I, it is quite hard to find that like his childhood, childhood, like a lot of information from his childhood. But as you could tell, there's a lot of information after his twenties, like there's a lot of it.

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And, you know, I think because they already put him in jail and in prison and stuff like that quite often in his younger days.

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I believe that should have already back then put him in a mental hospital because he was repeating offenses a lot and also attempting to escape from prison a lot.(...) So like I know it's in the 80s. I know they're afraid to do all that, whatever.

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I just feel like they could have stopped a lot of it earlier because he became quite famous just because of like the abductions he did and you know, but these two children, he wasn't really that super famous. He was known by the police, but his cases wasn't really a huge thing until like in Finland in general, maybe in their neighborhood, but not in Finland until later until the abductions of the children.

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He stopped so abruptly like he was like,

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because you were like, yeah, I felt like you wanted to say something. I was like, let's listen to Professor Johnson. I'm so done.

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It's mostly for me. It's just I will always say this. People think like back in the day, the 60s, 70s, 80s, even the 50s and stuff like that because he was a child more like he was born 19 or 24 something like that.(...) When you think about, you think about like families back then and it doesn't just apply to the dads either, but also

feel like they all were aggressive.

All hyper aggressive because let's be honest during the 20s

or times, maybe I don't know.

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During the 20s, like back then it was just hard and then they had this idea and this is a very common theme. I think across the world at the time that this theme that oh have a family, you know, you know, get married have kids and then most of the time most of these families were not mentally suitable to have children. They were not in the right headspace to have children and this is a very common occurrence. How many cases I'm pretty sure all of you have heard where, you know, a lot of serial killers or even people who didn't even become serial killers. I'm pretty sure even grandparents that you may know their their dads were abusive. Their mom was, you know, alcoholics or was absent-minded because they weren't happy. They mentally were not prepared to have especially at the age these people are having children. This is back in a day when you know, the second you as a woman you turn like 17 you was pushing out two three kids back to back to back and then you was with the man who was like in his 20s and he hated his job. It had to work 50 million hours at the factory and how many stories how many times have we heard stuff like that? So it was not a good time to be a parent nor a child back in those days and it was very prevalent because it created very aggressive people like a lot of these serial killers who were born back then like this is a byproduct of environment. Even some of the people we know today who were raised by some of these people who they themselves were victims by their parents.(...) They're not good a lot. Not all of them, but there are a lot of people out there who are just not good people because of how their family treated them due to times like this.(...) So it's it just shows like, you know, hey, if you're not ready to have children don't have children, you know, don't like don't be that parent where you want to take out your aggression on your child because then you're increasing the chances of them. Unfortunately,

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you know, taking out their aggression on the world and causing mental health issues and then the cycle starts anew.(...) So I just I just wanted to comment on that or become worse. I just wanted to comment on that.

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I also want to know that we're talking about families.(...) I actually wanted to talk about Jamu's ex-wife.

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So, you know, before you all judge her and like, you know, be like, oh, why did she suspect anything? Why she's stay with him for so long? Why she endangering her her daughter?

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La la la. Let me just like say something about that.

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So you as you said before, Devontae, this was in the 1950s.(...) Being a single mother with one daughter already from a previous relationship was already like deemed a disgrace.

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So she didn't really have a lot of options and that also she probably was going she was going in and out between different relationships and already there you can see that, you know, she was not being with the best options of men available. And probably she could have dealt with a lot of mental issues. She did deal with miscarriage and his abuse and you know, what happened with the daughter,

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him being in jail and stuff like that. So there's a lot of things that like I feel like she wasn't really in a good mental state either.

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But I think that, you know, being a single mother with a young child,

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it's not really easy during those times. They're very dependent on having a man to support.

Yeah.

So I feel like maybe she felt that like it would be a security and economy wise or like stability in some way to be with him and luckily she realized that was not the case and she divorced him.

And she left like even though obviously people want to go. Oh, she could have left sooner. She still left at prime time. The second the police was like, so your husband was arrested. She was like, bet and she left.

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She didn't even double back. She left. I cool respect, you know, so hey, I can't

and I agree like I think that you know, I understand if people be like but she's the mother. She's supposed to protect the daughter and the kids a lot and I'm like, yes, but like being in an abusive relationship. It's not as easy as it sounds.(...) So you have to keep in mind. This was a different time and also, you know,

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like usually back then you have to have you had to had at least a man to be stable in the household or to have the security and also,

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you know, based from her history, you know, I feel like there's a lot of things going on and I think it's not really black and white like that. And being in abusive relationship, you can be trapped as well. It's not as easy to just let it go, you know, yeah as it might seem but I'm glad she took the chance. She was like, oh you're going to jail.

She was like, alright now it's time to go.

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Now it's time to go and I glad that she did that even though she's a mother. She has responsibilities. I also think you should see all the different aspects of this situation.

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So yeah,

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I also wanted to say that like,

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you know, the 20-year gap that happened.

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The thing is like we can't really like guarantee that nothing did happen. However, there's not sufficient like bulletproof evidence that something did happen. It's mostly like rumors and like,(...) you know, it wasn't really I didn't find any verified details about what happened during that period but he could might as well have been just doing whatever he wanted and doing a lot of crimes. It just wasn't really clear or verified to me. So I felt like, you know, better to just have a 20-year gap because nothing was there's like mostly rumors.

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I think but if you guys find anything that'd be perfect. Just tell me and I would know.

I think me personally, I think he was probably prepping.

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Like he probably did commit some crimes because like that farmhouse

situation prison thing, a

pre-prep thing. That's not something you can do overnight. So I think he spent some time getting that together testing it out and we just unfortunately didn't hear about those cases because they probably didn't associate it with him. So it's possible. He probably was committing crimes at the time and he just didn't get caught or charged.

I just wanted to make sure that I have verified information.

Yeah, this is all speculatory at this point. What I'm saying now, do not take this back. This is just me speculating.

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But there are rumors and you can find it online and things but I just felt like it wasn't really like verified for me. So that'd be like, okay, this is legit.(...) So if you guys want to dive deep into that, you can do that. But I just wanted to clarify that part as well.(...) So let's go to the double murder.(...) What do you think, Devontae?

(...) Say go to the one, my fault, you cut out for a second.

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Oh, sorry. I said we will go to the double murder.

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You know,(...) there's a lot of things that's very unclear about the whole kidnapping and the double murder at whole.

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It's because they were so badly burned. A lot of the evidence was like gone.

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But do you believe that he did assault them, basically raped them?

Absolutely.(...) Or that's what I think he was prepping a little bit because I'm like, he burned them usually and this is, I guess statistically true. Typically when people burn bodies like that, it's either for primarily one of two reasons, either they don't want you to know who the person is or they don't want you to know how they were killed or how they were hurt because when you burn them past a certain point, you can't identify bruises or you know, sexual assault related injuries.(...) You know, you just have a charred corpse, you know, and it was even stated in the story. They had a hard time identifying whether or not she was, you know,

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sexually assaulted. The only thing they knew for a fact was she was dead,

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which means he had to abducted her and then

the thing is I can come with, I can say like what the evidence suggested. So basically what if we get a piece along with the timeline as much as I can based on the information that was available, it was speculated that Jammu like drove Johanna and Pei-V around a little bit before reaching to his Viti Villa, the Villa and Viti.

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And the evidence suggests that Johanna was in the car and never left the car, but like apparently Pei-V left and went inside the house.

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There are also indications that the girls had drank some unknown substance, obviously the sedative and also there were fibers from Pei-V's clothes that was found in the house or several chairs in the house and the bed and that was basically it. And I found one source that said that Pei-V's fibers from her clothes were found in Jammu's underwear.

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However, because there was only one source,

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I feel like I couldn't really put in the story,(...) but this might be, I think this is a very important fact and I think that if Korta didn't feel like that was proven enough, I guess that's that, you know.

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Yeah, it's just one of those situations where I know for a fact, this was very intentional.

If I was a judge and I was like, oh, Fybres was in the house, in the bed, in the underwear,(...) in his underwear, you know, I would have been like, okay,(...) you know,

it's one of those situations where this was planned out better than pretty much all the other crimes he committed. So like I said,(...) this was something that he probably spent time trying to figure out to some level testing out because the fact that he technically didn't even get a life sentence, even though he wasn't in jail for the, he was on the street, he still wasn't in jail, which means the possibility of him being able to come out at the time was still very much possible, even though we know in the future now that he died, because you know, we're already past it, it's just the fact that at the time it was possible that they could have just been like, you know what, he's able to go and then he could have been out on the street again.(...) So yeah, this is a very sad, sad case, unfortunately, and it's really disappointing too that the mothers had to deal with that. They were single moms and they were

financially single. And honestly, I feel like this could have been avoided if they took him seriously, like way back. Like his background was filled with criminal activities and also he was already raping another child when he was together with a wife.(...) So I just feel like how could they have not taken this more seriously, like he was in prison and that he was going in and back and forth with like in prison as well. I just felt like this could have been avoided.

I agree.

But on a positive note, this actually marked a turning point in Finland and it did change the law and they changed a lot regarding pedophiles in the 1990s. So like I guess sadly, it takes a high-profile tragedy to kind of hurry up the law process, but eventually, you know, they were able to make these legal reforms because of it.

I find it funny how he was like, oh yeah, the notes, you don't have to cover everything and you literally covered everything.

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I know I did. You did.

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No, I skipped this part. I summarized this part a lot.

You just summarized it, but you still covered it.

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I barely covered it. I barely covered it. Calm down. But either way, I want to end on a positive note.

But either way guys, let us know what you think and as usual, let's end the episode on a positive note. Any foods or anything like that?

(...) Spaghetti.

Well, there you have it. A spaghetti.

Garlic sauce.

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Spaghetti.

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I don't know what I want today.

Just something simple like oil and like garlic.

Oil and garlic. I'm so good. Yeah, I don't know what I want today. So I'm just gonna.

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Spaghetti. I don't know what I want today. So I think I'm just gonna say a nice grilled chicken cedar salad and call it a day. I hope you enjoyed today's episode. Oh my God. I just said, hey, just something rather.(...) I hope you enjoyed today's.

At least you had good fruit or something. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

I hope you enjoyed today's episode and be sure to check out our social media links. And once again, we have already by now last week we had released our first YouTube video, Evil Exposed and be sure to check it out. It's going to be something that takes place once to twice a month. So probably once every three weeks. I think I might make that a schedule once every three weeks(...) and we'll have a video talking about some of the older cases we discussed in diving specifically into their psychological profiles.(...) So I hope you enjoyed today's episode. I hope you enjoy our content as they are released on different platforms and we shall catch you next week.(...) Peace out.

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Bye.